Tucker: it was a kind of remarkable author ed staining as clearly as anybody has ever stated the nature of the threat that we face from china. All been written by someone you would know, the director of national intelligence. He called the calmest party of china “the greatest threat to democracy and freedom worldwide since world war ii.” it’s an amazing piece. Worth your time if you haven’t read it. We will have director radcliffe on to discuss it. He wrote this. The intelligence is clear, beijing intends to dominate the united states and the rest of the plan economically, technologically. I call its approach of economic espionage rob, replicate, replace.
China robs u.s. Companies of their intellectual property and replicates the technology, then replaces the u.s. Firms in the global marketplace. Those aren’t simply legal disputes, they have actual consequences for millions of american workers. On our standards of living come up with your kids will do for a living. Radcliff noted into money 18, on wind turbine manufacturer ripped off secrets from a infrastructure company. As a direct result of that theft, american semiconductor lost over $1 billion in value and had to cut 700 jobs.
It didn’t happen because the company was careless, it happened because they were the victim of theftft. That’s happening everywhere, including in the pentagon. According to radcliffe, china steals sensitive defense technology to fuel the president’s aggressive plans to make china the world’s foremost military power. U.s. Intelligence shows that china conducted human testing on members of the people’s liberation army in the hopes of developing soldiers with a biologically enhanced capability. There are no ethical boundaries to beijing’s pursuit of power.” remarkable.
We know where this is leading. “beijing is preparing for an open-ended period of confrontation with united states. Washington should also be prepared. Leaders must work a cross partisan and understand the threat and speak about it openly, and take action to address it.” john radcliffe is the director of national intelligence and more intelligence than anybody on the go besides the president. I think you so much for coming on.
You spell this out so clearly that it made me wonder why the rest of us, so many in our public life, hasn’t been saying this for quite some time. If you make sound obvious. >> i think you did a good job of encapsulating one, talker. There’s a lot of people who are economic reasons do not want china to be our greatest threat to. There’s a lot of people for political reasons don’t want china to be our greatest threat in america. But the intelligence doesn’t lie. China is our greatest threat and it’s not even close, no other country has the capability of essentially taking away the american dream and the specific plan to do so.
The intelligence is clear. Talker, and wanted to use the unique vantage point i have to make sure as the director of national intelligence my job is to warn the american people of threats and there is no greater threat than china to america. >> tucker: the most jarring part of the piece i thought was your description of the massive ramp-up of the chinese military. From your telling, not necessarily for defensive purposes, what do you think their aim is? >> well, again, dominate.
On the military front they achieved having the largest navy of any country in the world. From the military force standpoint, the people’s republic of china have a military of 2 million. They want them to be the largest and they want them to be the strongest, which is why they are engaged in what you referenced which is called gene editing, literally trying to alter the dna experimenting with dna to make soldiers, sailors, airmen stronger and more powerful. >> tucker: that’s horrifying. Do you think beijing anticipates some kind of physical confrontation with united states in the next several years? >> here’s the funny thing, talker, china knows that at this point the united states is still the world’s superpower. If there catching us in all the respects.
They are banking on the fact that we are not going to do anything until their superior and all the respects. They say it’s better to fight downhill, now the united states can fight downhill against china. We don’t want to be in a position where we are up at china and all of the plans that they have, the initiatives made in china, the digital silk road. Those are all thin veneers and facades for which china is going around the world and essentially gaining the influence, power to become the world superpower and supplant the united states in that role. >> tucker: we heard a lot over the past four years about russia’s ability to break in to his gmail account.
It to the extent you can, it’s not classified, give us the sense of chinese penetration into our networks, government networks. >> it significant and growing every day. Tucker, you made a great point in your opening about russia. They are a dangerous adversary. I don’t mean to minimize them, but you made the point correctly upon economically, russia cannot compute the way china can. It largest economy in the world is the united states. And second largest is china. Russia is not in the top ten. Italy, brazil, state of texas have a larger economy than russia. They can’t compete with us the way china is in china has a very specific plan to do that.
One of the ways china has made their way to the top is they understand that information is the key to their dominance. They’re going to get there any way they possibly can. That’s what subsidizing vt and wally is all about. These are chinese companies that are run by the chinese government. They know they can steal more information if they run the telecommunications networks over which our information travels. That’s one of the ways that china has gotten so good in terms of getting into our networks and into our information society. >> tucker: we’ve been asleep. Thank you for waking people up. John ratcliffe, thank you. >> great to be with you, tucker, thanks. >> tucker: next time you hear